So.... I'm Adopted Podcast!
This podcast creates a space for genuine conversations about adoption, where emotions are acknowledged, journeys are reconciled, and a healthy acceptance of truths is fostered. Delve into the impact of adoption on all parties involved, gaining insights from adoptees, adoptive parents, biological parents, as well as professional psychologists and social workers. Explore the realities, reconciliation processes, and ongoing dynamics of adoption.
So.... I'm Adopted Podcast!
The Reunion Ripple Effect: How Finding Birth Family Changes Everything
This intimate conversation offers a rare glimpse into how adoptees and their families navigate the complex emotions that arise when biological relatives are found. We explore the tension between excitement and caution, the fear of rejection from both sides, and the healing that happens when communication remains open.
• The deep need adoptees have to understand their biological origins beyond their loving adoptive homes
• How medical appointments can become unexpectedly painful moments for adoptees lacking family health history
• The "tunnel vision" adoptees sometimes experience in their excitement to connect with birth relatives
• Fears adoptive family members may have about being replaced or forgotten
• How children of adoptees process meeting biological relatives at their own pace
• The importance of allowing organic relationships to develop without pushing
• Finding balance between honoring adoptive family bonds while exploring biological connections
• The concept that "two things can be true at the same time" in adoption relationships
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Speaker 2:Hey, family, check this out. So we want to give you a sneak peek, a conversation that we had with amongst our family, just about the backside and the not so often spoke about conversations dealing with adoptees and just some things that we dealt with.
Speaker 1:We had an opportunity just to have some real life conversations. And somebody pulled out a phone.
Speaker 2:So here's an opportunity just to take a look at it, so check it out. So Dion expressed. He felt almost like, well, we, your family, what are you looking for? And what I had to share with him was, although it wasn't a void of love, it wasn't a void of, oh, I need this, I need that. When he went to his house he could look at Uncle Phillip and Auntie Faye and know I came from them. When Cheryl went home, auntie Sharon, uncle Willie, and it was no question.
Speaker 2:So for me well, for them it was nature, but for me it was nurture. I didn't have the nature and nurture to go. So there was that unknown right when it really bothered me because I knew I was adopted, that was a conversation we were having in our house. They weren't having those conversations, so for them it was just oh, that's cousin john, that's my cousin, that's my big cousin, my cousin. That just was what it was. So for me I always had the yeah, that's my family. But where do I come from? Like, do I have any siblings? Do I have any? And it's not. Two things can be true at the same time. Yeah, right, it wasn't a. Janice became with J-Lo that it really like I felt less thing Because I couldn't answer the questions of family history.
Speaker 3:Yep.
Speaker 2:Janice was able to check all the bosses and give yeah, we got this, we got that. And I'm sitting there like, for lack of better words, boo-boo the fool. Like you know what it was. It was the question of sickle cell anemia, that one question. They were like you know, do you have the trait, are you a carrier or something? And we were like we don't know I have traits. And that's all I could really say. She was like well, what's your dad's system? And you know the nurse, she was just doing her job.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:But not having the awareness that everybody doesn't have the traditional dynamic. So it just was. It hurt me and Janice saw the hurt on my face and I didn't turn around and actually move it and that's why, when Jayla was born, I started looking. Remember, I started looking, then Yep, and then your mom shut us down, right, and that's the difference between it, because everybody else is used to it. Our adoptive family is used to the situation. For me and John, we may be used to it, but once it really becomes a thing, it's not a used to, because once we found out, found our gossip family, y'all lives still went on like normal, right, but our lives didn't. Everything changed. Our thought process changed. I can speak for me, my thought process changed, but, like my aunt, go oh well, lisa, are you going to do the family reunion? What? No, I just found out I was adopted. What do you mean? I'm going to do the family reunion. You know what I'm saying? That's the thought process, because they've been living with it for 40 years. I just figured it out almost when I turned 40.
Speaker 2:So it was a change for us, not to say we don't love our family any less, because you've been there from day one and that was the thing Dion said. He was like you mind, that was his comment. I was like I know he was like are you going to gravitate towards them and walk away from us? It's the unknown. Yeah, and like I told him, I said I had to learn how to be sober and be protected.
Speaker 2:There was a season where I wasn't sober, where I was just like overly excited and I had to take into dynamics, take it to reality of how it impacted the girls and janice, and again I I didn't look at it like that, I'm looking at it like I'm getting my answers. There's tunnel vision, yeah, but for them there's a dynamic of well, now is this relationship that I forged with my was disrespectful to my game and at their age, young as they were, that's a reality, that's the truth that they have to navigate. So now you know, I've had to really sober up and step back and say I'm gonna let y'all do what works for you and not push it, because there was a season where I'd better push it and that's, you know, my fault. That was my truth and my excitement to find my answers and my you know lineas.
Speaker 2:But looking back on it now, that was the wrong way to hell. I wouldn't say it was the wrong way to handle it. It's because, again, they're not in our shoes, right, and for me it was all so new. I mean, I was on the phone with my mom 24-7. I was like just guarding everybody else's house, right, because it was so. You know, you're like wanting to absorb as much as you can.
Speaker 3:Trying to make up for lost time.
Speaker 2:Trying to make up for lost time. Trying to make up for lost time, so I wouldn't say it was the wrong or some On some type of level.
Speaker 2:You don't. I don't want to apologize for it because of at least a magnitude of what was going on, but I do apologize for me kind of disconnecting with the rest of the family. Well, I think what John is saying is that and it wasn't just, it's not the so distant past what he had to come to terms was he's in his process and we're giving him space to have that process, we letting him do the 24-7. He's texting Myra all day, every day, like I just bought a new pair of shoes. I just want to tell you about it. We become like those little kids again. But the thing is, if we even him that space, well, what he did is he pushed Myra on the girls and wanted that excitement and was upset that they weren't excited the way he was excited and so they were going through their process and it would turn into John getting very upset, disappointed, mad, like why don't you want this, why don't you want to? Right, but they had to do it at their own pace. Yeah, yeah, just like we wanted to get John his own pace, you have to give us our own pace because they're, you know, young. Remember when Maya and Jaz and TC were younger, they had to figure it out and process it, which, by the way, children, there'll be a new podcast with just the children. We don't bring you all together Now that me and Titus already had our podcast moment.
Speaker 2:But, like Jordyn, this wasn't like the last, this wasn't the Not Too Distant has. We were just at fam, you, yeah, and john was like, well, what do you mean? What do you mean? Are you? You sure you know we're viral? You know what do you mean? And it wasn't that jordan didn't want myra at the graduation, she did, but it was like you didn't even ask me. Like myra and m are coming, I need to prepare myself, give me a chance to prepare myself. And so I think her response. I'm not laughing at this, I'm laughing at when I found my mom.
Speaker 2:I don't think I consulted with Jasmine whether my mom was coming to her graduation or not. Right, this is your first grandchild to graduate, kyler, oh, you're coming. And I mean she was like, uh, but she came, didn't know it was from Adam, but she came and she came and she stayed at our house and we went to the graduation, right, and I don't think I consulted you? You didn't so good. How did you feel, jen? I didn't think I consulted you. You didn't so good. How did you feel, jasmine? I didn't feel anything. That's not the person to ask, though. Jasmine is going to be excited about stuff. I'm with that. Me, I'm really like yeah.
Speaker 2:I had problems because I'm a family person in the Warren area and I knew this was a big deal. Then I also realized that, looking, I learned it from her. I thought about how my grandma like her being able to experience that, be like oh, my goodness, I'm witnessing my first grandchild. I mean I'm not her oldest grandchild, but I'm the first one of hers to walk across the stage to get my bachelor's degree and then went on and got my master's and then, you know, just continued to do great, great things. But that's something new for her that she wasn't used to from her previous grade kids, not saying that they weren't successful, because they are.
Speaker 2:Everyone's doing very well, but again, everybody has different paths. So the fact that you know everybody wants their kids to go to college and get degrees and you know better their life, so the fact that, oh, I got a clang shot, that's about the who am I to try to take that experience or have any lip to that to say no, I don't want her to come like why would I not? But you have to understand her path also to where, as we learn later on how she was almost like the dark sheep in her family because they always talked like you know they're not doing anything. It was just a dark sheep situation, you know, with Lisa.
Speaker 2:Yeah they always put everybody in front of her and they kind of talked like she put them in. So you know. Getting back to how Lisa said she separated herself from everyone, you know when mom. You know back to how Lisa said she separated herself from everyone, you know when mom. You know she got her mother. I think what made that situation so different was that everyone else yeah everyone else except for you, you know.
Speaker 2:So that was a different type of embrace, because they knew that you were doubted, but no one said anything until you know. Grandma, right, I have a question. So how old were you when you found out? Don't let her answer Almost 40.
Speaker 3:30 says it.
Speaker 2:Zomai, how did you feel when your grandmother came to jazz some graduation? Well, I mean for her, that was cool for her and it was a different situation. In the beginning I feel like I was probably more excited about it because we didn't know for so long and stuff Not to your point. But then I think for me later down the line, I'm like all right, all this family and stuff, all these people, it wasn't a lot, it was just like all right. You know, like I didn't. I felt, especially back then, I wasn't as social and she wasn't. I wasn't as open to like new people and stuff and I wasn't around because at that time I was in college and I was cheering, so I missed a lot of stuff but I felt like it was overwhelming at some point.
Speaker 2:The excitement of me and her and her being around for stuff like that was cool, but then when it came to just other stuff later, it was just overwhelming. So the newness wore off. Yeah, it did for me, but I think that and this is the part where, like she, just we get into this zone because it's like for so long I haven't known and now that I have it and like we can't even describe that, that feeling of I get to find out these answers.
Speaker 1:I just want to glean every little bit that I can.
Speaker 2:And our mindset is well, if I have this, why aren't you as excited for me to walk with me? And that's why I say that that's our vision, and sometimes it's wrong for us to think that everybody else should have that as well, although on one hand we're entitled to it, but we can't expect everybody else should have that as well.
Speaker 2:Yeah, although on one hand, we're entitled to it, but we can't expect everybody else to have the same thing that we have. So I have a question. So Yvette, deonna shared his place, his, his mindset, cause, yvette and Deonna and myself, and then Shell, we all grew up together. It was the four of us. So, yvette, how did you? And then Shell, we all grew up together. It was the four of us.
Speaker 2:So, yvette, how did you feel when I said, hey, I found my first family, my biological family. What was your independent thought process on that? Well, I was happy for you because I knew you had questions about your mom and what you cared for. But the opposite part of that was what were you going to do now with us that you found your new family? Like, were you going to distance yourself from us, separate yourself from us? And I was like, just like my brother, you belong with us. And so I understand that this is your birth mother, but we're your family you know what I'm saying Like you're our cousins.
Speaker 2:We were I've been from an early age that you were adopted, but we weren't raised like that. You know what I'm saying? We were raised not just like cousins, but almost like brothers and sisters. Who was always together? So it's like okay, so I'm gonna just see if you will try to switch them on us, because I will see a lot of that gonna ask, but in a day we will have conversation. But this is not too. I said just in the child thought that I was going to like turn on y'all, but I was going to be wishy washy and you know what is true? Because, like my cousin, monica said the same thing. She's like who's this woman? What's going on?
Speaker 2:No it's not for that that we turn him. For me it's more a kind of a protection. But good milk I so eat, under by the bylaws, for family. I use your body. I lost my family. All right, you're a cyber body, I'm saying, but in the process of relying, somebody didn't grab by myself.
Speaker 2:Okay, we're trying to make sure he don't go in the earth because of his excitement. I'm saying he's just going full force ahead and I'm saying that's okay. What if he goes out there and he finds out something he really don't want to find out? Names hopper hands down, absolutely. And I will tell you this one that was sitting over here, that was her like from the door she said john, listen, I know you're excited, but she began the what ifs. What if they don't embrace you? What if you know they look at you differently? We don't know. We don't know them, they don't know us. What if their intent is to hurt? You know? What if they think your intent is to hurt you know? So all of that, I think, and I'm thinking that that was the common denominator with all of you.
Speaker 2:You know, again, there were times where I had the non-sovere moments, but I'm at a place now where I'm learning to let it happen organically. I will be lying if I said that there isn't an excitement, like I said, when we walked into the Kia Center and everybody being in there for Jordan from Virginia, especially because we haven't had that here. So to have my family here, that alone was priceless. And then, after that, I'm like I did. I went to a place you know I wish Gambia was here, wish Gamby was here, I wish Virginia was here. And then it was. Two things can be true at one time At the same time. They're not here, they're here in spirit. But I'm also thankful that my biological mom was here. So it's not like I'm replacing, but it's a plus that I'm able to have, because it's not a she's trying to replace who Gamma was. Go ahead, fira. Talk of me using a plus.
Speaker 2:When I graduated, I never got a consult coming. It was. You were excited and talked to her every day, so I expected her to come. I was like Jarrif I'm like I'm not going to tell you she can't come and she shot up. She gave me an amazing gift. She was really sweet and welcoming, but we were all like this is either going to be the most beautiful story ever, or the worst nightmare, or the worst, or the worst nightmare, or the worst.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean. You just never know what could come from it. In that beginning time, I know, but we was oblivious to that Because we were finally getting to know a blood relative outside of our kids and the mother. Not because mom, it was our mother, so it carried us for nine months. So it was. And the other piece. You know what you all have.
Speaker 2:I remember her thought I remember she says about. I remember saying like, maybe it's vision for me should be I don't want to graduate high school and get married, like I remember it saying that and I was like, well, I got one of those things off and it was. I remember the conversation went oh my gosh, they're not here to see this. You know, your granddad wasn't there to see it. He was there to see it. But the conversation was well, maya will be there to see it. And I was like, well, that's not the same. She's a bonus. I'm happy she's there.
Speaker 2:I might be to have a grandmother there, but it's not because, because you didn't have that lineage where she saw you from kindergarten. Yeah, if you just had to have that conversation, it's different and, to be blunt, I think feeling, but I think you have a space now, I. But I think you have a special personality. I do, I do, I get it, I can relate to that, j-lo. But the other piece was and again, this is my, I don't want to say immaturity, but immaturity in the journey, nudia said, the journey where my mindset was well, you have your mom.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Why would you not want me to have that? It's not that we don't want you to have that. No, no, no, no, no, no. I'm just telling you that, in the newness of the journey, that was some of the thoughts that were swirling around of how I was framing my thought process. I expected her to be with us more. I think it was just the threats, was more, not even my fast, just the Well, you're not her boss, you wanted it to slide in perfectly. It's like no, he stopped. You get to know, but check this out, although you say fast, it's been eight years Because it was 2018. I'm just up seven years. No, no, no, no, no, no. You say fast, fast, as in when she actually comes.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we'll have it, since you physically met her. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we didn't meet her until Gosh. I'm not saying it's fast, I'm saying it's not a replacement. We still got to get to know her. Right, it's not like integrating into the family. I understand what you're saying. Yeah, by integrating into the family, I understand what you're saying. I get it Like you know it could be seamless.
Speaker 2:Hey, I know you're watching the video right now. I know you're enjoying the conversation that we're having with our family, but I just wanted to jump on real quick and say, hey, if you like what you're listening to, please hit the like button, hit the share button, share it with your friends, your family members and subscribe. Please subscribe Any comments. Please let us know how you're enjoying it If you want to come on the show or whatever. We are here to listen to all different types of relationships. So back to the conversation. So, jo, if I got a question for you, how did you find out, or what was the discussion or what was your reaction when you found out? I was a doctor, because I know the relationship you and Aunt Carol, as you call her, had, because I mean, you didn't always know. How did you find out?
Speaker 3:And then, how did I find out? We were out there.
Speaker 2:I think it was maybe a conversation after it was all over. We had gotten married and I was like what do you mean? That John's not our girl? John is adopted, what, and that's how it was. I didn't know, but it wasn't no deep discussion. But the question for me is we did Alma and it's not funny, but DI takes, and you know this Rook I don't know what it is, but I thank God for it the bond that this family has. I married him to it and when I said my hosting taste is so serious, so my prayer nail is.
Speaker 2:Please, lord, whatever malice and tensions are, please let them be pure and good, and I don't want to be where this lady is doing her best and everything's working and she sneezes wrong. That's the way these are. What's your?
Speaker 3:side. Who should you be?
Speaker 2:well, calm deal.
Speaker 2:It's gonna be that, you know, along the journey and he's at that like don't you know, because he's been like this since he was young, that's his big cut. This is a little cut on his big, but he takes it so serious and it really really had been an adjustment for him, even coming here, the look of. I told him that I was saying I said a lot of times God just be saying, oh, it's a bad plan, but I always watch. And so I told him that I was saying he was like even with her husband being at the hotel and that dynamic he said you know, we communicated, it was good. So all of that to me is just the, the, the organic reality taking place a lot larger and I think we all realize there's so many different dynamics that occurred and it was just a reset and it's. Jordan was under the impression, like I know if we get, we were, the kids were much had stopped going to CCA Calgary Christian CCA, ccca I'm going to see you Calvary Christian Academy, cca. Why we used to say CC?
Speaker 3:Because it Well, because the church is probably. Ccc Go to these Hebrews.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yes, that's the name of the church, but yeah, yes, and much has stopped going there. And who's older, you or NG?
Speaker 2:Jasmine there and who who's older, you and jasmine, so you had graduated. And I remember jordan was like I didn't want to come to my graduation as a little child, like it was a beat to do. You know, I remember my graduation party, the um y'all doing the jerk. Oh, there was um. You thought y'all had. This was my high school graduation party and y'all were talking about um. Who doing y'all that was a scholarship. Yes, oh, you made it A scholarship come. So y'all was talking about doing a scholarship. And then Uncle John was like so, because I had the youngest kids in the event that we are all not in rank at that time and I was fresh to the crew too. You were like two years in. He was fresh. My paperwork wasn't even dry, they were not dry. You were still in a probationary period At that point. It's like to see that. And I was in 09, because I graduated high school in 09 to now 2025, that's like 16 years later. That's crazy. We're going to get the scholarship. So what's even crazier? Pace, so what's even crazier.
Speaker 2:And I was explaining to them how you all knew Janice before me. You all adopted him into the crew, correct? Janice before me. You all adopted him into the crew, correct? And I shared with them upstairs, when we were talking just about non-traditionals and different things, that in her previous marriage that was normalcy for y'all. So when I came in, it was, oh, he's a new guy. What was normalcy? Come on, just her being with you all and her husband. Yeah, yeah, yeah, husband, that was the norm. No, no, no, hear me out, I'm just saying that those were the pieces of the puzzle, but that's how we knew on Janice. That's how we knew on Janice. That's what I'm saying. But he was a part of the crew, he was a part of us, correct? He was a part of you all they were both a part of us so we really adopted Uncle John.
Speaker 2:Right, the sack kids adopted Uncle John, for sure, the sack bag. Yeah, the sack bag. I ain't heard that one in a long time. I haven't heard that in a minute. I think we started clicking the alphabet. Did you all do that? Which one was that? Did you all? Which one was that? We all did that one. Uncle Wayne did it too. Uncle Wayne did that one too. That's when everything kind of just solidified, did something different, because it was me, you Wayne and them.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and that was all crew and I was really like, oh you're for you not to merge into that. But in all fairness, dietrich was never part of that. Yeah, he wasn't a part of that. He was just, he was rolling with them, it was just a part of this.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:That's that, because Janice and him spent a lot of time with us when we were kids.
Speaker 2:So the simple fact that they were able to, like you know, transition and embrace seamlessly, might I, I guess, on our end. So for me, again, not knowing all details, yeah, for me it was okay, that's the crew. So I was at a place where, okay, I don't know where I fit, but I know my affiliate to her, so I don't know if they're going to embrace me or not. So I had to again walk very cautiously and just say this is who I. You know, it was a struggle, like even when we made a decision, I was like yo, I don't know, we're all up in this church, I don't know if he going to be there. Like, that was my mindset. I have protector mentality.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And even to a point when I'm teaching and this is later on, after we go to I'm teaching Bible study and he comes in and he I'm going to teach a vacation Bible school he sits in class. So now I got to put on my assignment to teach this class recognize he's in the room, be mindful of how it impacts her In addition to how it impacts them. So so many different dynamics that aren't spoken about, that I have to put in this backpack and carry, that aren't spoken about, that I have to put in this backpack and carry. So, when we talk about the layers of trauma and hiding impact on multiple levels it runs deep.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, but you being who you are.
Speaker 2:It was a missing puzzle. We had no clue that we needed it.
Speaker 3:We didn't know that we needed.
Speaker 2:You know that. We know we needed it until we got you yeah, we locked it for real. So joy, how are you feeling about this discussion? I feel good. I think you know you're something like oh, once we kept in podcast, don't come that bunk ass. And this is it, I think this ain't it don't try to get out of it.
Speaker 2:It's politically correct she trying to get out of it I think everything is I think me, the youngest, really like it's a hard role to hold on to, like you're just the puppet following everyone, trying to think everyone likes you. You don't fit in. You're not in high school yet. Oh, george doesn't know. Like all the perhaps with people and I think that just everyone be down here I slipped by, like I did my job, you did. It's like that's all of it how we're here. You, you always say how you feel like you've missed out on so many things because we've just we've literally lived the whole life before you were born. I feel like we have proven to you that you have not missed much, and whatever you've missed we've told you about. But what's crazy is is that we must get sick After I met y'all.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's right, because of Darren and Ryan Darren and I were a whole bunch of race, that's right.
Speaker 2:When our carly got sick they were at the hospital, him and Darren they were right here in the hospital and I think that's when I met y'all and I think we've been connecting ever since, you know, because it's like, hey, you know, we all family. But it's just funny how the dynamics of life works. I can go back to the moment when I think it clicked for Jaina and Jouel, it clicked for y'all in Virginia Beach. Yep, that's when they got back in. That's when they got back in. That's when y'all got back.
Speaker 3:TC was like chill out bro, that's when Jaina we was just talking, just talking about everything.
Speaker 3:I couldn't even remember what we talked about, but I remember that was. We were just we were just talking, just talking about everything. I couldn't even I don't even remember what we were talking about, but I remember I had, after we finished talking and I was talking to Mucha and stuff like that, I was like yeah, I just I was talking to Jayla for like three hours. It was like about what I was like we were just talking. I said Jayla's, really, it was really cool. Of course you did that.
Speaker 2:It was, I think. What was it? I know at least for me.
Speaker 3:I know for a fact because when y'all were younger.
Speaker 2:We were with y'all all the time. Then I went to college. I came back and they was like girl, we don't know who you are.
Speaker 2:Well, then they moved. So then you guys didn't see them as much as you used to, because then we left. Who left? Oh, they left, well, they left, I went to school, then they left. So then when we do, I mean I'll pop in and pop out here and there and stuff like that. And then I moved to DC and stuff. So I was distant, even though it didn't feel like I was distant because I'd still be around. But Jayla and Joey thinking about it in their mindset they were young, they were little.
Speaker 2:So me like that's no retention, you know, that's not going to stick in their brain, even if I was with them for so long up until, like a certain age point so then I think, when we had the house and then we did the pictures and stuff, when they saw the picture a little picture when you were, and they were like, wait, that's a yeah little picture. When you were a student and they were like, wait, that's a yeah, y'all, you've been on the ride, y'all been here this whole time. Jayla and Joey I, yeah, I used to be with y'all for real, like we. Even Y'all was on the image, so scared Like how these photos gonna be. Y'all are immature. Y, y'all are in majority, y'all are in majority.
Speaker 2:I'm saying anything. We were coming to Florida. I do that for sure. We talk about I've been talking about Florida Since we announced it. Yeah, I'm like, look, I said y'all, I'm putting my schedule back here to week To be my go-to time. Y'all know I need 80 hours for these next two trips. I'm going to have my 80 hours. I don't burn a lot of time, but I'm like I'm going to work extra, the way that operates if I work 60 hours one week and it just goes towards my 80. But man, I was. You made your mark for real, joey. Vote for y'all, jalen and Joey, y'all really had From. I was. You made your mark for real Joey. Vote for y'all. Jalen and Joey, y'all really had.
Speaker 3:Oh, this is Florida.
Speaker 2:From, I might say, the two oldest. I'm not the two oldest, but from you still Two of the three oldest to the two youngest. Y'all did exactly what y'all supposed to do here, when the mayor don't remember anything else, hey family real quick.
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